Mountain Christians Group

The error occured when the Church set June 25th as the birthday of John the Baptist, and the bible states Christ was born six months later. It is now admitted that June 25th was probably incorrect, but it is the feast day of John the Baptist.

Lancaster County it is. Thank you Roger...

I would hate to be sending a technophobe to the wrong county.

LOL!!!

I was within 40 miles of Lancaster County last weekend.....Going from Pennsylvania to Maryland....

"Technically, Christmas is a Holiday that was not celebrated till around the fourth century A.D." -Photog

It was not celebrated on December 25 universally in the Church until the fourth century, but it was celebrated before that.

"And it's funded (commercialized originally by Jewish Department Store owners in New York City, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia)." -Photog

There were Jews in all those places in the fourth century? Ha-ha.

"Christ was born in a harvest time, either late September of 5 B.C. or early April of 4 B.C." -Photog

The problem with these dates is that it is based on the account given by Jospehus in regard to the date which Herod was believed to have died, which may or may not be correct.

Either way, the date (December 25th) is arbitrary and has more to do with the ancient Jewish teaching of "integral age" where a prophet was believed to have died on the same day he was conceived. Passover starts around the beginning of April. Count nine months forward on your hands and it comes out to nine.

http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

"Both Catholic and Protestant historians will admit to this...."

I hope you don't mean to imply that all historians, both Catholic and Protestant, agree on what you are saying. That is oversimplifying it.

"It is now admitted that June 25th was probably incorrect, but it is the feast day of John the Baptist." -Photog

The feast day of John the Baptist is on the June 24th.

"The question would naturally arise as to why the celebration falls on June 24 rather than June 25 if the date is to be precisely six months before Christmas. It has often been claimed that the Church authorities wanted to "Christianize" the pagan solstice celebrations and for this reason advanced Saint John's feast as a substitute. This explanation appears to be erroneous because in those centuries the solstice took place around the middle of June due to the inaccuracy of the Julian calendar. It was only in 1582, through the Gregorian calendar reform, that the solstice fell on June 23.

Therefore, a more likely reason why the festival falls on June 24 lies in the Roman way of counting, which proceeded backward from the Kalends (first day) of the succeeding month. Christmas was "the eighth day before the Kalends of January" (Octavo Kalendas Januarii). Consequently, Saint John's Nativity was put on the "eighth day before the Kalends of July." However, since June has only thirty days, in our present (Germanic) way of counting, the feast falls on June 24.[3]

Nevertheless, the significance of the feast falling around the time of the solstice is considered by many to be significant, recalling the words of John the Baptist with regard to Jesus: "He must increase, but I must decrease"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_St._John_the_Bap...

InJChands wrote

Parents nervously give into childish demands, driven by the economics of retail profiteering, expressed in the seasonal advertising blitz aimed at the kids who make the demands on the parents. Isn’t this just all a big bunch of fun? If so, why do we have the glaring, screaming headlines each year?

Hmmm. I guess it is getting earlier and earlier each year to start the annual war on Christmas.

InJChands

I see people must see Jesus in you that is why they write nice thing about you..Any way how are you my "FRIEND"

A friend is a good thing to have.

How are you sabro yes friends are good to have Jesus wants us to be equally yoked. Jesus spent a lot of time with sinners, There is a whole other side of reality out there I a'm talking too the spiritually dead people that read this,,Jesus will open your eyes to see beyond your little spere!!

Sabro did he say Jesus wants us to be equally poked? Carefull don’t fall off your flat world…Did you mean sphere?

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Worship and prayer tonight over at the Pine Rose Cabins... 6:30. Across the street from the main office.

Bring a friend.

Sabro how was the bible study,,,Cool might be going to Harvest Crusade tonight May the Lord richly Bless thoughs that seek HIM in Jesus Name

The Bible study is excellent. Everyone is invited.

Check out the website: http://lifequestorganic.com/

Excellent fellowship.

•LifeQuest Twin Peaks•
Thursdays at 6:30pm @ Pine Rose Cabins
Contact Dave Dafour for details (909-237-4098)

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