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From: Mitty
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 10:01 PM
Time to go night night PapaJoe?
From: Mitty
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 10:17 PM
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 09:52 AM
Just an FYI.

After being very patient, with hours of screaming, (the type of screaming you would do if someone scared you),partying, and Mexican music, we finally called the Sheriff at 2:38 a.m. this morning. The party was taking place at those apartments right across the street from the Shell station. We listened to much of the same thing there all day yesterday, of course all in Spanish.
Everyone has a right and a blessing to have a good time, but as usual it was pushed over the limit.If it had stopped at midnight that would have been different, or if atleast they curbed the volume on things.
Anyone else hear it all? ...Yawn...
From: Mitty
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 02:39 PM
Or vote for people who will uphold the laws and codes.
From: Mitty
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 02:39 PM
Or will correct them.
From: MistyBlue
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:57 PM
Suzyheartsong:

Illegal immgrants, I feel for the most part are not civilized. They lack respect and curiosity to mankind. I also have a home dth which the area was invaded my illegal immgrants. The homes are small and older. They will have several families living in a two to three bedroom house with one bathroom. The cars and trucks are parked everywhere; on their lawns, street and even in front of the house that I own. I do not know what it is that they must have chickens and roosters which always comes in my yard. The little ones throw their trash on the ground which blows into my yard. The children are not taught any manners what so ever. The illeal neighbor wanted to take down the fence between mine and his yard so he can use some of my land for a shield. I about lost it with him. I can believe how illegal immgrants are basically criminals that have no shame in the condition they live in and create.
From: kaaren
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 07:54 AM
So true - so we have to put up with their culture of filth, thieving, stealing, just plain dirty living and attitudes and give up our culture? Someone said three things to worry about "borders, language and culture." We've given those up?
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 03:38 PM
Mistyblue,

I know what you mean. Fortunately I havent had to deal with it quite that up close and personal. I can tell you for a fact, because I was the one who put a stop to it, that there was an illegal Mexican man living underneath the building inwhich I work, in Blue Jay who had lived there for a year while nobody minded. Out of fear of fire, observing him making what I believe was a drugdeal in our parking lot, and the general fact that there are plenty of homeless American Veterans living on the streets I called the Sheriff, yes they did come and take care of it, and in fact fellow officers returned to see this dwelling because he had it so elaboratly furnished from furniture and things he had taken from the furniture stores trade-ins that were destined for disposal. I come to work many times to see Mexicans behind our office sorting through items people have left in the alley to donate to the thriftstore. They steal what they want, and strew the remainder of the items all over the back porch of our building. Yes I ran them off too, more than once.

I am getting some response from others who want to get on the bandwagon to try to put a stop, or atleast put a dent in what is going on up here. We are going to put an action plan together and start the process.
Once again if anyone is interested, contact me at Suzyheartsong@charter.net
From: linda
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 05:24 PM
If the majority of the people living in the mobile home park in Blue Jay are illegal - WHY don't they go after the owners of that land - the thing should have been torn down years ago anyway - it's a death trap waiting to happen! A park would be nice in that spot - Surely there has to be something someone can do -
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 08:24 PM
Linda that is an excellent point. I can tell you that the new owners are (LLC), the corporation that owns Lake Arrowhead Village, and a good portion of Blue Jay Village. They also manage the trailer Park.
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 08:29 PM
With the close proximity, and age of the coaches in there, not to mention all of the clutter, it could be a fire disaster waiting to happen. I don't ever want to see children lose their homes, but if their parents made the choice to bring them here to live illegally, then they are responsible for what ever tragic circumstances occur due to their decisions and actions.There are probably many people who are legal citizens livng there whom have lived there for years, and can't go anywhere else. That part of it is sad.
From: linda
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 05:14 PM
Perhaps someone could start a petition to get the owners to tear it down - I hate the idea of people losing their homes too but on the other hand I would much rather see eviction as opposed to injury or possibly death. Having that many people living in one small quarters can't possibly be healthy physically or mentally! I realize this will not solve the illegal problem but it has to start somewhere.
From: MistyBlue
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 08:04 PM
MTNDUNN:

I was thinking the same thing. They can stay in the trailer park rather than move on my street pushing the value down even further.
From: MistyBlue
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:00 PM
I do not see how we are left with the two candidates (Obama and McCain) who are for illegal immigration with the number of people that are upset how America is heading. I was hoping that Romney would be elected. He seemed to show an interest in reinforcing our immigration laws. Hopeful, if McCain has any common sense, he will choose Romney as his Vice President. Otherwise, we are screwed.
From: MistyBlue
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:02 PM
I do not mean to sound so doomed.
From: linda
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 05:55 AM
Not to mention, it doesn't effect them personally. Perhaps we could got a hold of their addresses and let the illegals know that this would be even a "greater" place to live. Oh, but then Obama and McCain have personal protection to keep the rif-raf out -
From: nuthatch
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:37 AM
There was more criminal activity in the Lake Forest/ Alpine Lane area yesterday. Hoodlums on foot with helicopter overhead. I heard they were caught but don't see any report about it. Anybody know what happened?
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