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If the oil cos. lease the rights, then they own them for the period of the lease.

You want to pay another 9 cents per gallon. Lets set up a voluntary fund, say a coffee can at each pump. I'll keep my
2$ per fill up in my pocket.

If some one leases something from you, they don't own it at all, do they?

Again, according to the fact check article: if you check the price at the pumps, check the Prop 87 language and the amount of foreign oil that we recieve, even if it doubles the imports and reduces California production by a significant amount, the price at the pumps will be largely unaffected.

Wurm doesn't get sarcasm. Our domestic oil is high in sulphur and cannot be used under California clean air standards. Our oil is mostly imported as Sabro observed. Private companies do not have any incentive to develope new technologies. They are not in that business and will never spend a dime doing what the government or privately funded research entities can do for them. Wurm illustrates his lack of understanding of our capitalist system. Chevron planned to shut down a large refinery in California to further reduce California's energy production capacity. Why? They said they couldn't find enough oil to keep the facility running and they didn't need the capacity. They are already making record profits and less capacity equals higher prices, lower production costs. That was their incentive to do the opposite of what Wurm suggest they could/should do.

The truth is, Flying J bought the refinery, doubled it's output with oil they had no problem obtaining from other sources. They supply their own chain of truckstops nationally.

Wurm argues that we should trust Chevron to be honest, altruistic and to voluntarily reduce their profits when no law or regulation requires them to do so. This is a disconnect between reality and fantasy.

Even funnier, Wurm advocates running a telethon for energy policy and taking up a collection for research. Why not just cede every responsibility to giant corporations and hope for the best? Oh yeah, that is Bush's policy.

Kow tow to the rich and mighty! Bow low before the powerful corporations! Grovel and genuflect to those who will trickle upon us! Offend not the money changers and those who walk in the halls of government! (Is that what conservatives really believe????)

The firemen say no on this one.

Are the motives behind 87 so pure?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-venture3nov03,1,5...

Thanks Chevron and a Fireman, It just might have been a start.